We all love Marvel and their surge of movies this century. But with so many of them, there’s bound to be some discrepancies. Many people cross these certain movies off as flops, and deem them abominations to the industry.

As Ryan Reynolds put it, “It’s a genre. There are good horror movies and bad horror movies. There are good comedies and bad comedies. Think of it like that.”

I’m an optimist. I believe that its not the entire movies per say, but certain moments in those movies, where things might have went awry. Lets take a look at those moments.

Weapon XI

We now get to see cinematic justice realized with Deadpool. But his first appearance wasn’t so justifiable. In X-Men Origins: Wolverine, Ryan Reynolds hit the nail on its head with his portrayal of Wade Wilson. But instead of becoming Deadpool, Stryker turned him into his next project after Weapon X. Combining the powers of Cyclops, John Wraith, and Wolverine himself, Stryker unleashed Weapon XI, played by Scott Adkins, not Reynolds.

The Death of Gwen Stacey

In Amazing Spider-Man 2, we watched Gwen Stacey fall to her death. Though the cards lined up to play out the famous scene from the comics (Green Goblin, Gwen making a move to London, and Peter’s arrogance in serious need of humbling), many weren’t ready to let Emma Stone’s Oscar-worthy portrayal go. Its too bad we’ll have to let the rest of Marc Webb’s Spider-Man story go, too. Don’t get me wrong, I’m excited as the next guy to see Spidey join The Avengers. But if the show had gone on, it looks like we would have seen Gwen return in Amazing Spider-Man 3. Rumors say Peter would have morbidly resurrected her and her father, and probably even Uncle Ben. And then in Glass Ceilings, the female-centric film in Sony’s Spider-Verse, there were rumors of her putting on the fan-favorite Spider-Gwen suit.

The Mandarin Switcheroo

In Iron Man 3, we learned that the villain we’d been waiting three movies for, was only just an actor hired by Aldrich Killian. Iron Man’s Joker ended up a drunken idiot. Even though I found it an interesting move, I was still disappointed as the rest of the pissed-off fans. Like Agents of SHIELD, though, I told everyone to be patient. In All Hail to the King, the last of the Marvel One-Shots, we learned that there was still a real Mandarin hanging out in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. And even better, he was the leader of the Ten Rings, the terrorist organization that kidnapped Tony in part one. In the comics, it was Mandarin himself who kidnapped the weapon-craftsman, which led Tony to build the Mark I suit. Mandarin’s big thing was his ten rings, which each had a different power. Iron Man played a nice metaphor and turned the ten rings into a terrorist group, leaving us to wait for the “slow-roasted” Mandarin. What a blue-ball that was. And to think, Marvel is just teasing us more, by keeping us on the hook, with hope that we might still see the real Mandarin.

The Storm Cloud of Galactus

I spoke of blue-balls in Iron Man 3. But, Movie Mandarin had nothing on Movie Galactus. I loved Movie Silver Surfer, and its a shame we didn’t get to see his rumored spin-off. Sitting in the theater for Spider-Man 3 (my first date with the woman who I now call my wife), I couldn’t sit still in my seat, anticipating Topher Grace’s turn into Venom. That same summer, when I sat in the theater for Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer, I felt just as giddy to see Galactus. But a storm cloud? C’mon Fox! It seems they have a knack for running out of budget when its just getting good.

 

You Didn’t See That Coming?

When Joss Whedon announced he was writing the mutant twins into his follow-up to the movie that broke the Box Office, Bryan Singer fueled the competition between the rivaling Marvel movie studios. It seems as though there was a gray area in Quicksilver’s rights. And so, after watching him run around to “Time in a Bottle” in X-Men: Days of Future Past, we nodded our heads, and waited for Whedon’s turn.

Back in 2012, with The Avengers, Whedon denied up and down that the aliens we saw in the trailers were the Skrulls. However, when we finally saw the movie, we heard them referred to as the Chituari. The Chitauri are the Skrulls! They’re just called different in the Ultimate Marvel Universe.

Skip to part two, we were told that both Elizabeth Olsen, who played Quicksilver’s sister, Scarlet Witch, and Aaron Taylor-Johnson, who played the speedster, had contracts for multiple films. By the climax, Pietro’s running gag, “You didn’t see that coming?” hit us right in the groin. No, we didn’t see that coming, Joss! You made sure of that.

If Johnson still has a contract, why waste this beloved character? After all, the death from part one was reversed. Good thing we’ll still see Evan Peters reprise his Quicksilver in X-Men: Apocalypse.

The Asphyxiation of Ben Urich

Lets switch over to the small screen for a moment, and talk Daredevil. When Ben Urich was fired from the Washington Post, I was excited that he may join the headquarters of the newest branch of the MCU: The Daily Bugle. But Kingpin got to him first, strangling the life out of him so that Murdock and friends could have a little more of an edge. Oh well. Maybe we’ll see him in flashbacks alongside our new J. Jonah Jameson.

So Much For Second Chances

Okay, I said that there are only moments that ruin these movies. But for this movie, I don’t think was any pruning that could have saved it.

How many of you ignored the critics and went into last year’s Fantastic Four with a little hope? They may not always be right. I’m one of those who thought they were way wrong with Batman v Superman. But in the case of Marvel’s first family, they were way right.

I went in knowing that this adaptation wasn’t to be from Stan Lee and Jack Kirby’s run on the comics. I did have a little inkling that this would be closer to Mark Millar’s run on Ultimate Fantastic Four. Do you know Mark Millar? Yeah, he wrote Kick Ass, Wanted, Kingsman, Marvel Civil War, and Old Man Logan (rumored to be the plot of Wolverine 3). Yeah, that guy. So, I would have thought, with his track record, there was still hope.

But no matter how much I told myself that he wrote the comic, he didn’t write the movie. But I can’t really blame it on the screenwriter either. Sure, if you don’t know the backstory of the hell the writer and director went through with Fox, the surface level looks as though Josh Trank and Max Landis dropped the ball.

Regardless who dropped the ball, though, it was dropped. This was your chance of redemption, guys. Now, every one is going to roll their eyes everytime the idea of a new Fantastic Four movie is mentioned. Good job.

I could fanboy out and tell you every little thing that was wrong with the film – no, not film; film means art. But with horrible experiences, people sometimes block them out of their minds. Therefore, I couldn’t tell you. I hollered “noooo” so much, that you would have thought I was getting murdered. My childhood was getting murdered, I’ll tell you that. Though, nobody even batted their eyes, ‘cuz they too were hollering “nooooo!”

Some of the movies from this list, people hated. And some movies they loved. But regardless of what people thought of the movies, I’m sure all can agree that each of those moments were uncomfortable to sit through. Just like therapy, its good to talk about moments that make us uncomfortable. So in the comments below, lets talk about any other Marvel moments that made you say “Noooooo!”